May 2009 Marketing is Dead. Long live Marketing.I'll start with a controversial statement: Marketing as we know it is dying.I was speaking with a colleague. A serious, seasoned, experienced, highly successful marketer - veteran of C-level roles in large companies with names that are familiar to all. Someone I flatter myself to even call a "peer." She threw out a statement that "I think this 'marketing' bit is over, it's gone, done for." I found myself agreeing with her. You start with the long-standing issue of companies that run a "sales and marketing" department in their organization which, frankly, means "sales with a grandiose name." It's a decades long truism in the discipline that "Sales and Marketing" isn't. But more and more, you see companies that are one way and another demoting or effectively eliminating "Marketing." They still do marketing, they just subsume it as a subsidiary sub-group beneath product management or sales or some other "major" discipline. I would also suggest that Marketing as an officer level role - the CMO - may have reached its apogee. The majority of companies, I would say, never did adopt a CMO even as the role gained some credibility, and many of those that did seem to be eliminating it (along with many other C_O titles beyond the entrenched CEO, COO, CFO triumvirate). Concurrently, I found myself participating in an online discussion that asked folks to define marketing in one sentence. The definitions were highly varied, and I defined it as: "Marketing is the discipline of locating or creating convergences between customer/market needs/wants and a company's existing or deliverable solutions; then, communicating to that customer/market the availability and unique applicability of that solution to their need/want." Shortly thereafter it hit me: Marketing - at least per my definition - isn't dying. Rather, marketers aren't doing marketing so much any more. I look at my colleagues, the groups I belong to, topics of conversation among marketers, presentations, white papers, etc. And it seems to me that "marketers" are focusing on the latter half of that definition to the detriment of the former. I see immense focus on the communications side in myriad variations. Hot topics include Social Network Marketing, Online Marketing, the viability (or not) of Traditional Media Marketing such as newspapers, TV and direct mail. Buzz Marketing, Affinity Marketing, yada. The problem is this: Not only could you seamlessly replace the word "Marketing" in that list with "Advertising," it would in fact be MORE accurate after you did so. So despite the fact that calling a marketing professional "just" an advertiser is generally fightin' words, what I'm seeing is that the accusation sticks: it walks like a duck and talks like a duck... So to my view, it's bad enough that Sales, Product Management, Research and the other disciplines have frequently taken over coordinating that market need/want versus company offering nexus. But it's worse that they have often not somehow usurped it: Rather, they've stepped into a vacuum. What's it all mean? Heck, I dunno. But I will say that I agree with my colleague this far: IF "Marketing" allows itself to devolve into a mere glorified outbound communications "Advertising" mode and walks away from that need/fulfillment nexus where the real revenue driver lies, we will probably, one day, see the "Chief Product Officer" or the "Chief Sales Officer" become far more mainstream and common than the "Chief Marketing Officer." April 2009 The Emperor Has No Clicks (and his clothes are looking pretty shabby too)Okay, I'm calling it: Google is over the hump. It's in decline. It has jumped the shark, my friends.Why do I say that? One clear reason: I realized today it has been weeks - possibly months - since I really found any good results from Google's search. Is it the slavish preference for wikipedia, followed by .edu, .gov and .org links? Is it the dominance of inbound link "popularity" in site rankings? Is it simply that Google can no longer tweak its ranking algorithm fast enough to stay ahead of the site 'tuners'? I dunno. What I know is that in search after search after search, I'm just not finding what I need from Google. I find lots of link farms, lots of not-quite-what-I-wanted .org and .edu sites, and invariably in the top spot, a link to Wikipedia. Guys, I'm aware of wikipedia - and aware of its weaknesses. I don't need a Google search result to remind me it's there (FWIW, which isn't usually that much IMHO). What I'm looking for is there, all right. Eventually I can usually find what I need, but just not (any longer) through Google. Whether I'm trying to find a hardware store in my vicinity, a 20x25x5 furnace filter, or a good site to book cruises, Google just ain't delivering. Sometimes I find what I need through the sponsored links (more often than the organic!), but I know that's only a subset, so I don't 'trust' that it's a true result. Oddly enough it's old, staid, counted-out Yahoo that I find delivering what I need most often. For a long time my.yahoo.com was my home page of choice. Even when igoogle.com debuted, I saw no real reason to switch. And while Yahoo embedding obnoxious unstoppable video ads in its "my" page was what spurred me to switch, in reality it was the search results that made the case. So I'm taking a risk and predicting the 'outage' of Google in the next year or two. They're too big and too dominant to not remain a key player, but like Microsoft, I see a long slow slide away from the commanding lead they've enjoyed. I remain eager to see who steps up to the plate. Will it be one of the second-tier players like Yahoo or AltaVista? Or some new upstart that finds the next great way to bring contextual relevance to search results? Personally, I'd bet on the latter. 'twill be fun to see in any case. April 2009 The Dea(r)th of Customer ServiceIf you still think we're in a serious recession, just try to get your air conditioner fixed! The HVAC biz is apparently so awash in business that they don't want mine.On Sunday our A/C was turned on for the first time with bad results - no cold air. So I called SECCO, the dominant local player and the folks that installed and serviced the equipment for the prior homeowner. They have a reputation for being "not cheap," but prompt and responsive. They said they could get out on Wednesday. So we sweated and slept badly for a few days, then I had to stick close to home on Wednesday, waiting... waiting... waiting... Nothing. At 2pm I called to see how we were doing and was told "well, you're on the list"... At 5pm, they called me and said "We'll have to reschedule you for next week." Next week? You gotta be kidding me. So I called three other local HVAC outfits, all suggested by neighbors. Being after hours, I left messages. It's now 10am the next morning and only one of them has called back, and can't come until... Next week. I'm not going to hold my breath for the others to call at all... Mind you, in each case I've said that I not only want the system fixed, but want a service contract. You know... ongoing revenue for them? Regardless - enough whining. The point is that I am regularly stunned at just how bad customer service is in our culture - in general. Having traveled the world extensively, it's just not like this in most other places. If you have money to spend and willingness to spend it, folks will bend over backward. Poor service is simply not tolerated. But somehow here we've learned to just grin and bear it. So it serves as a regular reminder to me as to why I run Jackson GI the way I do. We respond to all customer inquiries quickly (24/7). We have a no-nonsense return policy. We bend over backward for customers and approach our customers from a "do the right thing" stance. And it does pay off... Our customers are happy and our absolutely stellar reorder rate proves it. So thanks, SECCO. You'll never see one dime of business from me (I have a zero tolerance policy on wasting my time...), and I'll make sure to tell everyone I can to avoid you. But you did remind me, again, why I think of customer service as a core competitive advantage, not as a "call center" where we focus on minimizing costs. March 2009 Flexing My Techie MusclesMy wife's recent entry into the real estate game gave me a chance to play techie in a way I haven't done in years.I'm dating myself here, but the last time I dealt with domain issues beyond telling someone "get the MX changed on this domain" was so long ago... Netsol was the only game in town. Flash forward and a challenge from Mrs. C: "I bought myself a passel of domain names. Can you make 'em all point to my website and incidentally, not have them show up as the "mugwump6247.terribledomainname.com" URL I've got assigned? And while you're at it, post 'em on your blog to get some initial Google coverage." I withered in fear. I remembered the agonies of dealing with Network Solutions. Direct online change capabilities virtually nil. I anticipated days (weeks even) of waiting to see if messages sent off into the ether yielded results, nothing, or demands for notarized documents. What a pleasure to play techie again it turned out to be. In the era of godaddy... well dang, this stuff is easy now! Sure, if I had a personal flunky to assign it to, I would have, but a couple hours effort and it's all done. So check out how all the URLs now go to the site, nicely 'masked' to show the nice URL and everything. I suppose I take pleasure in the simple things sometimes. Maybe I should even break the old java & asp chops out from the back of my brain and try a little coding again. Could sure dress this site up a little, huh? Anyhow, the fruits of my efforts and fulfillment of my wife's wish for her first inbound links... Central PA Real Estate Central Pennsylvania Real Estate Camp Hill Real Estate Harrisburg Real Estate Cumberland County Real Estate Andrea Chronister Sells Real Estate Mechanicsburg Real Estate. Yee haw! The old dude still has a few tricks. Now to go hire that personal flunky so I never have to do it again! February 2009 Google: Dudes... Drop the self-righteous mission statement.This one will be shorter than the norm, I think. But I've had enough of the self-righteous poseur-ship of Google. "Don't be Evil." Hah!Here's the deal. Take a keyword on Google. One with NO ADS showing. Create an ad campaign focused on that keyword. Bid low for each click... $0.25, even $0.50. Guess what... You'll get various messages in your adwords account: "ads not showing due to low quality score:" (not true, my landing page is HIGHLY relevant). Or best yet "Bid is below first-page estimate of $___" where ___ is always higher than my bid. What you won't get is your ad showing up. C'mon guys. If you're going to have a minimum effective bid of $1 per click - which in my pretty extensive experience buying adwords is the realistic minimum - just say so and have done with it. Don't play all the games and nonsense. If NOBODY else is bidding on the keyword, $0.01 should be the position #1 ad, right? Don't tell me my ad is irrelevant when I buy "hot dog toppings" and have an entire site dedicated to a detailed review of hot dog toppings... Just flat out tell me - "It's $1 per click to play in our sandbox." So gimme a break already. I can respect the profit motive - I have it myself! But at least be up-front about it and/or drop the whole "don't be evil" routine... February 2009 Check out my New BlogNo, the marketing blog here is not going away, but with a new role at Jackson GI Medical on tap, I've started a new one focused on general business, particularly the healthcare industry, probiotics and prebiotics, and startup/small business in general at http://krischronister.blogspot.com. Check it out! More Marketing Meanderings coming here soon.January 2009 Online marketing with the use of social network sites - Corporate genius or advertising spam?Answer:Jonathan: The conventional wisdom (at least currently) is that marketing on social networking sites is an unwelcome intrusion, and ineffective if not counterproductive. In my own blog, I've suggested that social networking sites have not proved fruitful in my own professional marketing endeavors (see link below for more on that). And yet, I find my viewpoint shifting as these sort of sites mature and I observe what's being done. To me, the key to any highly effective online marketing is a combination of traditional demographics - reaching the right person(s) - but with the added element of context: reaching the right person at the right time. As an "oldster" in the realm of interactive marketing (ripe old age of 39, been "in the web biz" ~20 years since it was just a gleam of a SLIP connection in Al Gore's eye) I can suggest that this debate is part of a far larger discussion. That discussion started with whether advertising online was legitimate AT ALL. So let's bring perspective: In the earliest days of the web, advertising online in general was subject to the same critique. The web was much more the realm of academics and hobbyists then. Many folks payed per-kb or per-minute for access. Ads were seen as intrusive and unwelcome. Yahoo was still hosted on a Stanford web server, and sites like it and DEC's AltaVista (Google wasn't even around yet!) struggled with interrupting the "purity" of their searches with ads. Ultimately, I think that Google's real secret sauce - what let them beat the pants off Yahoo and Altavista - was not just a simple interface and superior search algorithm, but the inspiration to add advertising contextually. The same user who lost his/her mind when receiving an irrelevant blast email about immigration lawyers or a blinking, obnoxious online ad for X10 cameras was not put out when typing in "cheap car insurance" on Google and having discreet Geico ads appearing. I judge that social networks are in about that same 'adolescent' point in their development right now (and yes, I'm not sure the "google" of social networking has even appeared yet - s/he who monetizes will probably be the winner). And the debate is the same. As a marketer more interested in results than a philosophical debate, I believe the trick to effective marketing on social networks is to get context. As someone else has pointed out here networking takes time... So does good marketing, generally. I'm not sure if the facebook, linkedin or other sites' ad models support sufficient contextual or behavioral targeting at the moment. Facebook's claims to do so, but details are needed (and they haven't been real forthcoming with that "proprietary" information to this point...) Moving outside the advertising world to "participating" in the sites on a corporate basis is much the same. If you add a profile or develop a facebook application, for instance, what value are you adding in what context? Are you investing the time to be a "responsible" participant or just trying to blast your name/product out there? So Corporate Genius or Marketing Spam? What's there is both. There's far too much of the latter, but some of the former. I know a local advertising agency that has launched some social network "profiles" for itself, along with some well-placed ads, and it's been a great source of leads for them - both business and personnel. But they respect the medium and work in a mode of adding contextual value and not overstepping their bounds. Which one you as a marketer fall into is largely determined by how you approach it. December 2008Issues in Marketing to College StudentsWhere you may want to pay attention to the “current trend” factor more is in your placement. You’ve heard of Facebook? MySpace? YouTube?... How quaint. In fact, here’s a recent story about how YouTube is losing market share. Remember Second Life and how many millions of marketing dollars went into building storefronts there? Me either. November 2008My sales force is addicted to printed materials - to the tune of millions per year... What can I do?Jim, I know exactly how you feel.. Been there, done that. There are many issues to confront in deciding on your own path forward:
First and foremost, getting rid of print doesn't have to mean getting rid of print. For items where the customer really does want paper - especially smaller publications with a good potential for customization - consider using a smarter solution: Digital, on-demand printing through a global network. That means:
1) an on-screen presentation in
a
comfortable "double-page spread" format that visually looks like a
book, including "page flip" navigation. Can't beat the power of
familiarity. 2) a clean and clear keyword search capability. 3) Multi-platform distributability - able to be burned on CD, saved on thumb drive, e-mails, FTP'd, posted online, etc. This is where format comes into it. You may want to use e-publishing for catalogs and large documents with digital-print-on-demand filling your need for brochures, flyers and other smaller-scale endeavors. That's the solution... Implementation, education, acceptance and effective usage are the hurdles you should certainly not underestimage, though. But that'll have to wait for another blog entry, I think. August-September 2008 CPM Again? "What's an acceptable click through rate?"Answer: I'm going to take the contrarian viewpoint here and say it matters almost not at all. I say that for several reasons:1) I would strongly prefer CPC or CPA based programs. I have found CPM to be wholly useless in most cases. Only in CPM does your clickthrough rate really matter much. 2) On a CPC basis (e.g. Google Adwords) clickthrough rate is often your enemy. While Google (and others) often build in clickthrough to your overall placement, I consider that basically insidious. The more you "juice" your copy to incent clickthrough, the more you (often) get junk clicks. In many ways, reducing your clickthrough rate will yield a better ROI (which is the metric I would say really matters in the end). 3) In a word (okay, an acronym, and one I just used) it's all about ROI. Who's better off? The campaign with 20% clickthrough and minimal ROI, or the campaign with 0.3% clickthrough and 2000% ROI? So many factors come into play here: What is your "win" for each completed transaction? How are you tracking ROI? etc. Measuring clickthrough as a success metric for online ads is rather like measuring hours worked as your metric of success for your career... It is often simply wrong, often irrelevant, and sometimes even an adverse indicator. In the end, I most often find clickthrough rates touted by vendors/agencies who are not delivering ROI... Harsh? Perhaps. But also nearly invariably true in my experience. January 2008 What's the most powerful response modifier you have tested (and measured!) on email marketing campaigns which has uplifted conversion? And why do you think it had an effect?Answer:For all the differences (which are critical to understand), at its core all direct individual-target marketing is driven by personalization/customization. If you're not leveraging the fact that you're communicating to an identifiable individual, you're losing much of the value of the mechanism. And I believe this applies equally to e-mail, direct mail, telemarketing or any other direct-to-one-individual medium. So since you ask for "the" most powerful response, I'm not going to offer a laundry list here, but simply say "the" most powerful response modifier is personalization. As it applies to e-mail? Personalization in the subject line is a huge open-rate driver. Not just the basic "FIRSTNAME's Email Newsletter" routine, but whatever you can offer to create connection: E.g. "FIRSTNAME's Student Loan Information" is great. But if you have more detail, use it. Know where FIRSTNAME is going to college? Now you've got this: "FIRSTNAME's Student Loan at COLLEGE NAME for up to COLLEGE'S TUITION AMOUNT." Far better... Multiple hits on familiarity elements. You could fairly say - and I'd agree - that personalization/customization of the subject line is the single most powerful response modifier. But if you choose to look at it more broadly, the same idea applies inside your e-mail too, once you've achieved the open. And don't limit it to personalization to the individual. Every lever you can pull that ties to the individual is great, but more macro-level personalization works too. If you don't know details about the individual, what about the list parameters? For instance, If you're emailing a list in a given area or state, make sure you mention the area or state. "Bob, we're contacting homeowners about their mortgage options" is not nearly as good as "Bob, we're contacting Pennsylvania homeowners about their mortgage options" which is not as good as "Bob, as a select Camp Hill homeowner with an excellent credit history, COMPANY can offer you some compelling mortgage options." I've tested many, many variants of this concept over many years in areas ranging from consumer finance to cars to jewelry, and it leads me to conclude that there is no such thing as too much personalization/customization. I've invariably seen that adding more will improve open, response and throughput rates. December 2007 Is SEM Dying?The question: "We all know that SEM is a continuous process, however are they some things within SEM which are getting obsolete....." (sic)Answer: No, it offers a unique value that shows no signs of abating: SEM is currently the best way to find a synchronization between content-driven segmentation and behavior-driven targeting. Not only do you have a very good idea someone is a relevant target for topic X (based on the keywords), but you also know they are in a search mode for that content. That's the exact problem with the current efforts to monetize Facebook, MySpace and the like. You frequently don't have content-specificity, and you certainly don't have behavioral context: It's not a search-based site. Marketing based on sheer demographics and nothing else... now THAT is a dying breed! SEM has plenty of room to grow, in my opinion. It still represents only a small portion of ad spending, and has many untapped areas. For example, a genuine way to really add demographics to the mix would further enhance results. If I can not only tap an audience interested in "designer bathroom fixtures" and have a good idea they are actively seeking "designer bathroom fixtures" that's great (and that's SEM today). But if I can also know that they are 50-65 year old empty nesters who are a better target for my super-high-end bathroom fixtures, that's some magic in the making! Until something comes along which even better synchronizes audience segmentation with behavioral context, SEM will continue to grow. PS - Anyone who knows what that "something" is, drop me a line. We'll make a LOT of money. November
2007 The question: Do
Banner Ads Work? Jakob Nielsen recently as study about banner
blindness. If nobody sees
banners, do they work? Can anybody point me to a banneradvertising
success story? (sic)
Answer: Banner ads are just no fun, they do not work well, Mr. Lund. I do not like those banner ads, I do not like them - even scads 17 Years, Jag to ConAgra. Banner ads need some Viagra! I have tried them 'cuz the agency said so, I tried them and the budget bled so. I have tried them for my clients: Impact not measurable by science. I have tested millions of bucks, I have tested – they just sucks! I will not test them here or there, I will not test them anywhere. I have tried some context buys, I have made behavioral tries. Video embedding I have done, audio too – sales, not one! I used them for teens on myspaces, I used them for seniors other places. Young and old, all alike. Banner ads they just don’t like! AOL did not work well, on Yahoo too they did not sell. I will not make a banner run, I will not use them, Mr. Lund. Careful placement or Run of Site. Didn’t get a single bite. Integrated with TV, Good results I did not see. Cross promotions, I have tried. Clicks and conversions...died. Branding, Branding say the pros. Brand awareness at all-time lows. "Strategy lacks” says agency, but CPA pricing they will not see! “Creative weak” the websites say, but pay-for-results makes them run away. Green Eggs and Ham or Banner run? I’ll take the breakfast, Mr. Lund. October
2007 5 reasons why Yahoo WILL win more marketshare in 2008. Agree?The Question: Yahoo!'s
numbers this week have been given rather lukewarm response from
analysts and investors alike; however I believe 2008 will see a rising
Yahoo win back significant marketshare from Google. UPDATE as of January 2009: The dismal year of 2008 is well and truly behind us. And with hindsight, we have our answer... Yahoo did not "Boom" in 2008. Quite the reverse: with a board conflict, ouster of founding CEO Jerry Yang, a final end to the talk of Microsoft investment or buyout (okay, okey...for now), and a new CEO pending, it wasn't a "growth" year for Yahoo. If anything, their position is more tenuous than ever. My Original Answer from Oct. 2007 follows: Nope, won't matter. Gains
1-4 you note above are HIGHLY incremental
and will not 'move the needle' in terms of impacting the user
experience (whether we mean a website user or an advertiser user). I'm
all for step-by-step steady improvement. That is key to staying
competitive, retaining market share, and building retention. But it's
not a quantum growth driver. The only way Yahoo will gain significant
market share is by shaking up the entire model and coming up with
something that is a whole new take on search/portal conceptions. I
don't see any of that here.
Why? I think it's behavioral context. Facebook is about social networking. People are going there precisely for leisure/escapist reasons. You can show them advertising and messaging 100% dead-on to their needs, and they'll ignore it because they are focused on a totally different behavior path. The reason CPC works so well is the combination of targeting (you respond to the user-defined search) AND behavioral context (they are there precisely because they are in information-seeking mode). No content play can match that, and especially not one where the context is exactly antithetical to marketing. Addendum: On October 25th, 2007 Microsoft announced a $240 M investment in Facebook. As a company primarily focused on software "infrastructure" this makes far more sense, I think, than an investment by Yahoo (or Google, for that matter). September
2007 To what extent do offline conversions factor into your PPC management decisions?1) Do you think the market for PPC ads has already discounted the value of offline conversions?2) Do you presently monitor off line leads/sales and integrate that data back into your search engine cost data, ultimately revising upward your ROAS and reducing your CPA/CPO? What solution do you use? Do you go so far as adjusting for bad debts/returns? 3) If you're not presently adjusting for that, what % of sales need to occur offline to render managing CPA/CPO goals with only online success data an inherently flawed and potentially wasteful practice? Answer: 1) Not at all. I think PPC rates, especially when we're talking bidding-based models, are very immediate-ROI driven. Fundamentally, I believe that is driven by the preponderance of PPC customers who simply lack the infrastructure, process, or resources in place to effectively track this. 2) Yes. Over the long term our metrics are driven by sales per click, with the key caveat that we continue to monitor and track this over time. Over time, we can infer a ratio of immediate conversion to "total" conversion and base bidding and budget on that. Bad debt/cancellation/return is included in this. Our solution ties a 'source' code to a user registration, preserving the origination of that lead to all their ultimate activities. For indirect/offline transaction, all customers must answer a how-did-you-hear-about-us query. Given the time and effort devoted to making that representative and effective, I actually consider the precise method used as highly proprietary! In fact, because the 'source of origin' is tagged onto a customer on a permanent basis, we even include repeat business by the given customer over the long term. 3) Can't answer this exactly as posed since we do track this, but would venture that 30-33% of the total value of a "click" happens offline and/or within subsequent business. Clearly that number is highly variable based on the individual business's ability to serialize. Some products are one-time, some are cradle-to-grave, and that impacts significantly.” August
2007 If you knew the exact duplication rate of orders being attributed to Affiliates, Search and Media (double and triple counting primary influencer), how would you change your campaign strategy?Answer:“On a bottom-line, objective level, If I definitively knew the entire "clickstream" I would allocate the ROI to all the "involved" placements/media. I'm not entirely sure there's more to be done than that. One creates familiarity, inclusion in the decision set, and propensity to engage through a multi-touchpoint halo effect that creates a customer. However, I doubt there are any secret shortcuts or uber-drivers in that 'halo.' The aggregation of awareness, the sequence of media impressions to action and the interplay of multiple engagement points is so subjective and so personal to each prospect that I would only "mess with the works" very carefully and lightly, even if I did know the exact touchpoints and sequence.” | Twitter Updatesfollow me on TwitterPrior
Postings Apr. 2009 Apr. 2009 The Dea(r)th of Customer Service Mar. 2009 Feb. 2009 Jan. 2009 Update with hindsight: Will Yahoo! win more market share in 2008? Dec. 2008 Issues in Marketing to College Students Nov. 2008 My Sales Force is addicted to print! Sept. 2008 CPM Again? "What's an acceptable click through rate?" Sorry for the hiatus, folks. Demands of a new job took precedence. January 2008 What's the most powerful response modifier you have tested Dec. 2007 Nov. 2007 Do Banner Ads Work? (Dr. Seuss goes Marketing) Oct. 2007 Will Yahoo! win more market share in 2008? Sept. 2007 To what extent do offline conversions factor into your PPC management decisions? Aug 2007 |
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